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Noting that most of the ferrule gluing discussion lacked much of an experimental basis, including mine! I decided to glue up pieces of cane with a simple NS sleeve (drawn, not machined) and see how hard it was to pull them apart. All tests were conducted with my son (6'2" and 230) and myself pulling against each other as hard as we could. As real a test as I could come up with.

From strongest to weakest:

1&2 Pliobond:  Glued without roughing up the interior of the NS tube not roughed up and Golfsmith shafting epoxy after a 3 day curing time with the interior of the sleeve roughed up with a ruby burr.  Couldn’t get either one of these to budge

3  Ferrule-Tite: Interior of the sleeve roughed up with the burr - a slight slip without a pin. Reheated the sleeve and pinned- no movement.  I would hasten to add that we were pulling for all we were worth when the cane came out an 1/8"

4  Devcon 5 minute, sleeve roughed up: No slippage, BUT!! to test a theory I  have heard about and previously wondered about. The effect of freezing for 24 hours in a 0 degree freezer and then rapping on the sleeve with a 4 oz steel hammer (not hard enough to dent though) it pulled off. Think of an unheated cargo compartment on an airplane. Of course UPS would never subject the item to any such brutal treatment...

5 Standard ferrule cement (Gudebrod): Pulled much easier than the Ferrule-Tite. When pinned we were able to get it to break the pin.

Some other information - The only one that pulled readily was the frozen Devcon,  it was still a firm pull to get it to come apart though. All of the other methods would be sufficient under normal circumstances. The low temp of the Gudebrod  would let go in a hot car type of situation (not involving a Dodge 440 six pack). I think that the Ferrule-Tite would be better but it still was much softer at 170 degrees or so. The Golfsmith was not subjected to the 'freeze'  test.  But  I  have  not  heard  of  the  same persistent (10-12 years now) rumor that has plagued both the 2 ton and the 5 minute Devcon.

Legal ramblings - In case there are any guys who are playing lawyerball.... THESE TESTS ARE COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE AND REPRESENT THE EXPERIENCE OF A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS LIKELY A COMPLETE DOLT IN THE PROPER APPLICATION AND USE OF THE VARIOUS MATERIALS TESTED AND CAN IN NO WAY BE RELIED UPON FOR ANYTHING AT ALL EXCEPT INTERESTING DINNER CONVERSATION WHEN YOUR BORING RELATIVES SHOW UP FOR CHRISTMAS DINNER AND YOU NEED TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS IN LIFE AND YOUR BROTHER IN LAW DOESN'T BIRD HUNT! YOUR RESULTS MAY VARY! IN NO CASE WILL FERRULES THAT HAVE BEEN APPLIED USING THE NO DOUBT FLAWED DATA WILL BE ACCEPTED FOR REPAIR.  (AJ Thramer)

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